{"id":2276,"date":"2019-11-17T17:44:39","date_gmt":"2019-11-17T17:44:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/cemeteryscribes.com\/blog\/?p=2276"},"modified":"2021-05-30T00:05:19","modified_gmt":"2021-05-29T23:05:19","slug":"louisa-elliot-nee-salomons-1778-1811-the-goldsmid-prager-and-elliot-relationships","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cemeteryscribes.com\/blog\/louisa-elliot-nee-salomons-1778-1811-the-goldsmid-prager-and-elliot-relationships\/","title":{"rendered":"Louisa Elliot nee Salomons 1778 -1811 (The Goldsmid, Prager and Elliot relationships)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"color:#6a2424\">We are delighted to publish the following article written by  Dr Phillip Kirby .<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">My interest in the <strong>Goldsmid, Prager Salomons<\/strong> families began when a researcher asked for help in identifying whether or not they were related to Jewish lines. The focus of their research was <strong>Louisa Salomons<\/strong> <strong>and her Goldsmid, Prager and Elliot relationships.<\/strong> A more detailed coverage of our discussion including records and data relating to the lines can be seen on the British Genealogy Forum Jewish Roots under the heading \u2018 Israel Levien Salomons-Hester Prager\u2019.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To put the\nrelationships into &nbsp;context Louisa\nSalomons 1778-1811 (daughter of Israel Levien Salomons aka Yechiel Preger and his\nniece Ester Jacob Levie Preger-(see Dutch Jewry website online for data on this\nline) married George Elliot a gentile.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\n<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These\nrelationships included several well-known Anglo Jewish families such as Goldsmid\nand Prager. Jesse Salomons sister of Louisa and daughter of Israel and Ester\nmarried Benjamin Goldsmid.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As will be described the involvement of George Elliot in the Salomons and Prager families was one of friendship, business and marriage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As part of the research I identified that one of my own Hart relatives had married during the 1890s a&nbsp; descendant of Benjamin Goldsmid c1753-1808 (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cemeteryscribes.com\/getperson.php?personID=I6943&amp;tree=Cemeteries\">Cemetery Scribes ID 6943 Catherine Hart<\/a> \u2013Lionel Campbell Goldsmid ID F3077).Benjamin&nbsp; Goldsmid had married Jesse Salomons c1767 -1836&nbsp; daughter of&nbsp; Israel Levien Salomons aka Yechiel Preger.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> The close inter relationship between the families can be further seen in Synagogue Scribes Will Extracts NA2043 which has data on Israel Levin Salomons probate 1788. In his will he names his wife, children and siblings. See also NA 418 Lyon Prager 1795 Father Jacob Levien Salomons and siblings including Hester widow of Israel Levien Salomons (Lyon&#8217;s uncle). NA1273 Jessica Goldsmid 1837 widow of Benjamin Goldsmid NA 782 and Cemetery Scribes ID 7621 who died in 1808 &#8211; her nephew was Edward King Elliott.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"> Further family data can be seen on:  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cemeteryscribes.com\/getperson.php?personID=I7622&amp;tree=Cemeteries\">Cemetery Scribes ID 7622 Jessy Salomons <\/a>(married name Goldsmid) (Fradke b Yehiel Prager).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Synagogue Scribes Will extracts has probate for <a href=\"https:\/\/synagoguescribes.com\/blog\/jewish-will-extracts-18th-19th-century-details\/jewish-will-extracts-18th-19th-century\/?value=1132\">Benjamin Goldsmid NA 782<\/a> 1808. In the full will bequests included \u00a320 to Louisa Elliot wife of George Elliot and sister in law of Benjamin Goldsmid and a sum of \u00a320 to Mary Elliot sister of George.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In her will dated 1816 and proved 1837 (<a href=\"https:\/\/synagoguescribes.com\/blog\/jewish-will-extracts-18th-19th-century-details\/jewish-will-extracts-18th-19th-century\/?value=1670\">Synagogue Scribes Will Extracts NA 1273) Jesse Goldsmid<\/a> left a bequest to her nephew, a minor, Edward King Elliot the youngest child of Louisa and George Elliot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When Israel\nLevien Salomons married the ceremony required a civil dispensation because it\nwas a marriage of uncle and niece. This meant that the relationships between\nthe Salomons and Preger aka Prager were extremely close.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The failure of the Salomons India\ntrade business <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are significant letters and\nother communications relating to Israel Levien Salomons and his business\ndealings particularly in India. These communications refer to his transactions\nin India in coral, spices and diamonds (see National Archives). However,\nfollowing his death the business got into serious financial difficulties and\nfailed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A more detailed description of the issues affecting the failure of the Prager business can be seen in the publications Diamonds and Coral \u2013Anglo Dutch Jews and Eighteenth Century Trade, Gedalia Yogev (1978); United States Jewry, 1776-1..85 Jacob Radar Marcus,( 1985). In the late 1780s Lyon Prager (nephew of Israel) and his two nephews Mark and Simon arrived in Bengal to promote the company business. Lyon and Simon died in 1793.George Prager, son of Israel, arrived in 1798. However, the inability of Israel\u2019s sons to run the business effectively further affected the eventual failure of the company.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Louisa Salomons and George Elliot-her children and her death<\/strong> <br>Research confirmed that Louisa Salomons had married George Elliot in a Church of England ceremony: <br> London, Church of England Marriages <br> Marriage 3 January 1795<br> St Mary Islington London<br> George Elliot bachelor<br> Louisa Salomons spinster Witnesses- John POWELL; Sarah Ann DIMOCKE <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">George Elliot in various publications has been described as a ship\u2019s captain in the East India Company and a friend of Lieb Prager. George Elliot became involved in the Salomons business following the death of Israel. The business was in financial difficulty and Ester the widow of Israel sought help from Elliot who by that stage was a merchant <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The relationship between George Eliot can be seen in the following extract from Harold Pollin, 1982 Economic History of the Jews in England P53. Referring to the death of Yehiel Prager aka Israel Levien Salomons and his business Pollins wrote&#8230;&#8221;None of the sons was capable of managing the London House and the job fell to George Elliot, who had been a ship&#8217;s captain on the East Indian route and who married a daughter of Yehiel Prager. But neither his efforts nor those of another son in law, the financier Benjamin Goldsmid proved fruitful. The firm came to an end in 1796&#8243;.<br> <br>Another extract from Yogev, (1975) regarding Jews in eighteenth century trade refers to the failure of the Salomons firm&#8230;&#8221; For several years Esther tried to save what remained of the business assisted by George Eliot (an old friend of her brother Lieb) and supported by her son in law Benjamin Goldsmid and his brother Abraham&#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Following the marriage of George and Louisa in 1795 they had\nseveral children and at least one child died very young.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The\nChurch of England Baptisms identify the children of Louisa and George.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hester Maria Elliot b April 12 1797 Baptised 11 May 1797 St Luke Finsbury Islington<br>Louisa Elliot b 20 July 1798 baptised 5 Sept 1798 St Luke Old Street Finsbury<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Benjamin\nGoldsmid Elliott b Nov 4 1799 baptised 6 Jan 1800 St. Luke Finsbury Islington<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">George Augustus\nElliot born Jan 28 1801 baptised 4 May 1801<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nb Burial George Augustus Elliot 6 Sept 1801 St Laurence, Kent &#8211; The parents are named as George Elliot and Louisa Elliot. It appears that the first George Augustus child died and following family custom another sibling was named after him.<br>Caroline Elliot b July 25 1803 baptised 28 Nov 1803 St Luke Finsbury Islington Middx<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Baptism\nSt. Luke Finsbury Baptism Jesse Sarah Elliot 28 March 1805 born January 1 1805.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">George\nAugustus Elliot baptised 15 Jan 1811 born 12 August 1810<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Currently,\nmissing from the baptism records is Edward King Elliot born 1811. His mother\ndied October 11, 1811<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Edward King Elliot (1811-1865) joined the\nBritish Army and served in India, at his death he was a Lt. Colonel. (Dictionary of Indian Biography P 135 C\nE Buckland, 1971).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Another of Edward\u2019s siblings was Benjamin Goldsmid Elliott. His probate\nshowed he was late of the City of Batavia the Island of Java 31 Dec 1828 translated\nfrom the Dutch. His wife was named as Catherine Elliott formerly FRASER. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>The death and burial of Louisa Elliot nee\nSalomons<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The research\ninto Louisa and George Elliot revealed a rare example of an archaeological\nresearch project involving the identification and exhumation of many bodies and\ngraves of individuals buried in St. Luke\u2019s Old Church Finsbury cemetery\nincluding the crypt and vaults. Louisa Elliot nee Salomons was one of the\nbodies identified and recorded in the vaults as will be described.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In 2005 a detailed archaeological research paper containing pathology descriptions of various individuals removed from the burial ground St. Luke\u2019s Old Church Finsbury was published. The excavations were part of the re-development of the land and church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(The\nArchaeological Experience at St. Luke\u2019s Church Old Street Islington. Angela\nBoyle, Ceridwen Boston and Annsofio Witkin Oxford Archaeology, 2005.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The church records showed that Louisa\ndied after giving birth.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Burial Record St. Luke Finsbury Islington 18th Oct 1811<br>\nLouisa Elliot wife of George Elliot Esq from the\nParish of St. Mary the Virgin Aldermanbury London died Oct 11th&#8230;vault, age 33\nchild bed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"231\" height=\"252\" src=\"http:\/\/cemeteryscribes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Old-Street-St-Lukes.jpg\" alt=\"St Lukes, Old Street\" class=\"wp-image-2277\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cemeteryscribes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Old-Street-St-Lukes.jpg 231w, https:\/\/cemeteryscribes.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/11\/Old-Street-St-Lukes-160x175.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 231px) 100vw, 231px\" \/><figcaption>St Lukes, Old Street.<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Louisa was buried in a vault in the crypt. Prior to 1810 wooden coffins had been buried in the crypt and these had rotted causing significant problems for health, disease and odour. Post 1810 only wealthy individuals could be buried in the vaults and no corpses were allowed to be buried unless in lead or metal coffins. In 1853 the vaults were sealed and filled in.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Louisa was buried in a lead coffin as the report identified. Page 117 of the research paper reads: <br> Coffin 773<br>coffin material lead (intact) inscription \u201cMrs Louisa Elliot died 11\/10\/1811 aged 33 years\u201d. Coffin plate rectangular.<br> Osteological age\/sex coffin intact (skeleton not analysed). It also gives dimensions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Importantly, the Church stipulated that no sealed\ncoffins were to be opened because of \u2018decency and dignity\u2019. These coffins,\nincluding Louisa, were to be \u2018sleeved on site and removed for burial\u2019. However,\nit is unclear as to where the coffins and bodies were removed to and re-buried.<br>\n<br>\nThe work comprised recording of funerary architecture, and the crypt structure\nalong with exhumation of all burials in the northern and southern churchyards\nas well as clearance of all the burials in the crypt. A total of 1053 burials were\nrecorded and removed including 712. Not all burials in the churchyard were\nremoved.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There are no\ncurrent records to confirm the death of George Elliot or whether he re-married.\nHowever, one record does indicate that he was dead by 1836 as was his son\nBenjamin Goldsmid Elliot. It is possible that George Elliot died in India where\nhis son Edward and other relatives had settled.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When Louisa\ndied she was given a Church of England burial and funeral and not a Jewish one.\nThose who attended the funeral are unknown but at that stage Jesse Goldsmid\nchildren had been baptised and at least three of Israel Levien Salomons\nchildren had married out of the Jewish faith. None of the Elliot line practiced\nJewish customs or married Jews. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The research\ninto the families is ongoing and likely to reveal more relationships.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We are delighted to publish the following article written by Dr Phillip Kirby . 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